fuck what kurt hummel might have ‘in the future’ aka ‘in season four’ or ‘hey guys calm down chris is going to be on glee next year and we know both kurt and rachel will have their mentors in NYC storyline’

I don’t give a flying fuck

because once again

kurt hummel dared to want something, to have a dream, to persue that dream WITHOUT changing himself (supposing we forget his transformation into pod!kurt for a few episodes there - which I am willing to forget if you are)

and once again he was told ‘no’ and that he couldn’t, even after nailing his audition 

so, ergo, I don’t care what he ‘might get in the future’ because the future involves dealing with the same creative team that gave us what we got tonight.  and I’m just not interested in that. 

is it weird that, out of all the horrible things glee has done, the show springing a KURT SUDDENLY DECIDES TO GO TO FASHION SCHOOL BECAUSE HE POTENTIALLY DOESN’T GET INTO NYADA (my gross spoiler speculation based upon the fact that the writers like to see Kurt cry) OR BECAUSE HE GIVES HIS SPOT UP TO RACHEL (which would ALSO rub me completely the wrong way for reasons I won’t get into right now) OR BECAUSE HE WAS REALLY MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT FASHION ALL ALONG (…), might be the thing that actually pushes me to give up on glee?  

that after all the bullshit, misogyny, embracing of the white male cisgender able bodied SAVIOR DICK, limiting of queer kid agency, ‘VERY SPECIAL EPISODE’ representation, finchel ridiculousness, blaine being a junior, and butterscotch creys of this season (and series, lbr), this might be the one thing that makes me go ‘I give up!  I can’t watch this stupid crap anymore’?

because I swear to you it just might, and I know that sounds so ridiculous, but it really just might.  and I know I’m out of step with many people on my dash about this, but HONESTLY what was the point of the NYADA storyline, west side story, the presidential election (from this season) of it all?  besides making really strange and really problematic points about queer performativity and ‘passing’ and how kurt can’t do it because he’s not just ‘gay’ he’s ‘GAY!!!!!!’ with sparkles and embellishment and someone. just. punch me in the face.  was everything this season just created to kick kurt under the bus again?

and this isn’t even really about kurt going into fashion since canonically it has been something that has been extremely important in his life/for his character.  it just hasn’t been billed as his passion in the same way.  it’s also the last minute of it all that is pissing me right the fuck off - because they could have easily included storyline’s or even THROW AWAY LINES about kurt making all the costumes for west side story, or the various glee competitions, etc. etc., but they didn’t and decided to make his crowning moments of triumph happen (in all three seasons re: Laryngitis, As If We Never Said Goodbye, and Not the Boy Next Door) after elaborate Broadway inspired singing performances. it’s just the handling of the whole thing that despite me usually going ‘lol it’s glee so what else can we expect’ is pushing me over the edge of what I can usually deal with.

littledust:

trionerd:

littledust:

trionerd:

I’m actually so angry about the bullshit reason the writers created to keep Mercedes from singing lead with the Troubletones during Nationals that I would legitimately pick up my chair and throw it through my window, if fixing the damage wouldn’t cost me money that I don’t have.  　

My Internet stopped sucking enough to load the clip and adksfjl;afda. What the FUCK is wrong with the writers? How did I know that their explanation for a Mercedes-less “Edge of Glory” would be the grossest thing ever? SHE’S THE FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE TROUBLETONES. It SHOULD be just as important for her to solo as Rachel from a narrative POV, but the narrative doesn’t give a damn about the Troubletones.

brb picturing a world where “Paradise by the Dashboard Light” has Kurtcedes leads. >:( I think that’s the best Cory has ever sounded and Lea sounds flawless on her part, but you know what? They already HAD their song moments. Finn is the lead on that Nationals song that I didn’t like, right? He can have that one, because God knows ND has better singers but I’ll concede to the ridiculous state of the narrative on that one.

if Paradise was a Kurtcedes song the world would be a beautiful place, and not just because they freaking MORE than deserve to HAVE that lead, but because it would help complete a wonderful narrative arc for both the Kurt and Mercedes as singular characters and for their relationship in general.  

But god forbid Kurt be given a song that is typically sung by a heterosexual male performer, or Mercedes actually get a moment this season where she’s allowed to shine without being painted as ‘selfish’ or a ‘diva’ with ‘impossible and unrealistic dreams.’  

Because like, I love Rachel Berry, but this whole NYADA storyline has always been BS, and the continuation of it up into Nationals is even BIGGER BS.  If they at least wanted to pretend like Glee is an ensemble show where the ‘Glee club family’ (which I don’t buy, btw) is the heart of the show, then college stuff should have been OVER episodes ago and the last few episodes could have been solely about these kids and how they’re processing moving on/this change in Glee club.   Instead of taking this episode as a time to reaffirm again that the outcomes for Finn Hudson and Rachel Berry take precedence over everyone else. 

UGH YES. Why should Kurt and Mercedes have any lead parts in Nationals when one has been accepted to THE performing arts school and the other is on the verge of becoming a YouTube sensation?

Ack, I should also clarify that when I talk about narrative precedence I’m talking about three seasons establishing Rachel and Finn as THE main characters, not the stupid NYADA plot. I’ve spent this season fast forwarding through pretty much every Finchel scene. HOWEVER, since Finn and Rachel are the show leads, it would be a bizarre narrative choice for them not to have big Nationals moments, regardless of how vehemently I disagree that Finn is star show choir material and that NO ONE ELSE can ever sing lead except for a token concession to the Troubletones. Really, why does Finn’s big moment happen onstage, writers? HE’S NOT A PERFORMER IN THE SAME WAY THAT KURT AND MERCEDES AND RACHEL ARE.

I actually agree, re: Finn and Rachel having a moment at nationals.  I think you’re right - for as much as I’ve hated what FInchel has become this season, if Finn and Rachel didn’t get their ‘moment’ during this episode it would be strange even to me.  But the fact that they (especially Finn) have to keep on HAVING THE MOMENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN - MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE SAME COMPETITION EVEN, not just this season?  Is what makes me see red.

And, like you suggested, forcing Finn’s moment to happen on stage (when his Sectionals moment during season 1 was definitely happening offstage) is something that they really didn’t need to do.  Why are they pushing performer/actor Finn?  It honestly doesn’t make any sense.  I would have been one hundred times happier with this season if Finn decided to help Burt out with their Tire Shop.  Because what’s so wrong with that Glee?  Especially if he’s good at it and it makes him happy? Just because someone’s dream isn’t to be a famous Broadway performer or celebrity, doesn’t mean it’s any less worthy of a dream, and that’s what I’ve felt has been implied in this show which…is another thing that makes me mad.  

homopotamus:

Now, the actors themselves going ‘It’s a bro-scene! All of the bros are here!’ in the BTS videos is going to make me side-eye them. No, all the bros are not here. Despite Kurt pushing the gender norms in the most fantastic ways possible, he’s still canonly identified himself as a man. As a ‘bro’. So yes, it is a bro scene but they are all not present. :p 

No.

Look, I understand what you’re trying to say here, and it’s very valiant? of you. I guess?

Bro =/= Male/Boy and conversely, Male/Boy =/= Bro

Bro, as I have come to understand since hearing the term almost a decade ago, is slang for a type of person who ACTS a certain way. They are not always “men”. I’ve been called bro before, yet I identify as female. Are they wrong because I present myself physically one way and yet act “differently” in other ways?

I have no doubt in my mind that the boys of glee club consider Kurt a friend. A very good friend and, in some cases, even closer than that. But he does not bond with them in ways they consider “bro” ways, I’m sure. 

And there is nothing wrong with that. 

The fact that Kurt isn’t considered a ‘bro’ is not what I’ve seen most people have a problem with.  Most people (that I follow at least, so I could be ignorant to a wider range of sentiment) understand that the term ‘bro’ does not unequivocally equal a male identifying person. 

And while I have some slight pushback that Kurt doesn’t bond with the boys in ‘bro’ ways (those being the snippets of friendship I’ve seen between Puck and Kurt, and the fact that I think, unfortunately, Kurt’s ability to even have a certain types of friendship with the Glee boys has been tempered by their initial social positioning at McKinley), I understand what you’re saying in your last point.  I agree, as well, that there’s nothing wrong with Kurt, for example, wanting to hang out more with the ladies of Glee club than the guys (as Chris Colfer said of the ‘Summer Nights’ song with Sam and Mercedes - Kurt would much rather gossip with Mercedes than the guys).  

The problem I did see people having with the BTS video was the fact that the actors (Harry, I think, in particular) explicitly said: “it’s a bro scene.  All the guys are here” which IS, in fact, a statement that attaches a gendered definition onto the term ‘bro’ that was never present before.  Because, no, not all the guys ARE in the ‘Rain in Spain’ scene.  Kurt, despite not being a ‘bro’ is still a guy (as he has echoed numerous times before) and the fact that the statement ‘all the guys are here’ was said about the scene IS problematic and worthy of critical attention.  Because it’s wrong, and just seems to reinforce the unfortunate sissyphobic tendencies this show has notably employed in the past. 

substantialityou:

Good. I hope he’s mad because he transferred away from a GOOD school so Kurt could have a magical final year yet he will have to spend his ALONE. At a shit school he doesn’t even have to go to. I hope it’s this. Because that’s rage inducing.

I mean

I’d see how it’d be rage inducing if Kurt doesn’t appreciate the fact that Blaine did make a sacrifice in order for them to go to school together

but why is it automatically rage inducing in this context? Blaine is his own person.  He decided to transfer, Kurt didn’t force him too.  And even though Kurt did ask him to transfer so that they could be together, Kurt never once went ‘if you don’t transfer I’m going to break up with you’.  I’ll agree, Blaine being a Junior sucks and I’m mad about it too, but that’s more the fault of shitting writing than anything else. 

(Source: kurtcedes)

spoiler speculation or mainly just random rambly words about gleezone’s episode description but here have this before I sign off for a bit to go to class and, lol, I can’t wait to get back from class to observe all the reactions from people as they wake up. under a cut for courtesy reasons

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mass-romantic:

trionerd:

miggylol:

verachuckanddave:

aelora:

Where, exactly, are all of these people who are after Blaine while Kurt languishes in the corner, forgotten and alone??

People who have shown interest in Blaine:

Kurt
Rachel
Sebastian

People who have shown interest in Kurt:

Mercedes
Brittany
Blaine
Karofsky

What exactly have these people who feel Kurt is so unloved and unnoticed and Blaine is oh-so-wanted seen that I have somehow missed on my ridiculous amount of repeat viewings?? 

Well I guess if you make a list of names, without any context whatsoever, that’s a conclusion you can make. But if you actually watch the show and listen to what they’re saying, then it’s beyond me how you possibly argue that Blaine isn’t presented as more attractive than Kurt.

Mercedes? She spelled out her intentions to Rachel and Tina - it wasn’t that Kurt was such a hot piece or that she was really romantically interested. She was just lonely, and she saw Kurt as her only option. It’s framed as a “bottom of the barrel” choice. Brittany literally kissed everyone in school, so Kurt wasn’t a special interest of hers. And more noticeably, she only became interested when Kurt butched it up (Kurt’s undesirability being linked to his effeminacy.) Karofsky’s interest is never presented as sexual (thankfully tbh, since that would be really creepy) but because Kurt is out and had helped him. In short, none of these occasions were meant to show Kurt as physically attractive or desirable.

Let’s completely put aside Sebastian and Rachel (though I will say that we’ve never heard an equivalent for Kurt in terms of fawning all over his sex appeal/appearance like we got with Seb, god they went overboard there.) Just look at how Blaine is framed as a heartthrob - the way the Crawford girls squeal over him or how he is apparently the guy to get Beiste’s lady parts moiste or Santana calling him a “dreamboat.”

I don’t want someone else to pursue Kurt at this point. I don’t think it’s necessary (really DNW Kurt stuck in a Samcedes-esque plotline) and “Heart” proved that Kurt himself feels no desire for it. What I would like is the sort of casual reference to desirability/attractiveness that Blaine (and really, most of the characters) get. I can’t think of any real positive comment about Kurt’s appearance or sex appeal in the entire series. Because right now, it is framed as Kurt=effeminate=undesirable, in direct contrast to Blaine. IAU in particular made me deeply uncomfortable because of the link between passing, talent, and attractiveness set forth in the narrative. Someone being called sexy really shouldn’t be a big deal, but it is when it’s framed like this (just look at “no fems” on gay dating ads.)

I’m just boggled that someone who stans these characters doesn’t see this.

This is another great explanation of how Kurt’s presentation in the narrative is so problematic.

I agree with pretty much everything @verachuckanddave.  The only element I disagree with is the statement that Karofsky’s interest was never presented as sexual - because I think it was (though I agree - I don’t think it had a link to how attractive/good looking Karofsky found Kurt to be) and the fact that it was is what makes it creepy to me.   Other than that, however, I think it’s a very succinct and true commentary. Especially the bolded parts. 

I’m not sure I agree that Karofsky’s interest was sexual, because I don’t think the sexual harassment and Karofsky’s romantic interest in Kurt overlap. They both are really rooted in the same thing, which is that Karofsky’s projecting his internalized homophobia and issues on Kurt, but when Karofsky expressed romantic interest in Kurt, that was only in Heart, and that was never sexual. The actual sexual harassment wasn’t presented as romantic, and we all know that sexual harassment=/=sexual interest, rape culture etc. etc. Everything else, though, is spot on, 

I think you’re right about that - in fact you pretty much said what I was trying to get at in a much more eloquent way than I was able to so thank you for that.  I think I was responding to the notion I took away from the ‘Karofsky’s interest’ part - which was what seemed to me to be a suggestion that Karofsky’s actions upon Kurt never took a sexual turn.  Which they definitely did.  But i agree that the romantic interest of Karofsky, in heart, weren’t explicitly linked to sexual motivations.  

fashionhasnogender:

ileliberte:

Oh my goodness, when people are complaining about how Kurt is presented in the narrative over and over as unattractive and undesirable whereas Blaine is presented as attractive and desirable, the conclusion that you draw from it isn’t that people hate Blaine and want Kurt to be pursued by someone else so that Kurt dumps his clearly loving boyfriend and goes out with that someone else.

It has nothing to do with how Kurt and Blaine see each other. It has to do with how the show presents Kurt, where the contrast is heightened by how the show presents Blaine.

The solution that is desired here is Kurt not being laughed at all the time about how he looks and how undesirable he is. THAT’S ALL.

It’s not Kurt vs Blaine. It’s Blaine vs society and Kurt vs society.

And in that contest, Blaine has won and Kurt has lost Every Single Time on this show.

Italicized and bolded the last part for emphasis.  

I also had to reblog this, because I feel like a lot of people in this fandom assume that fans of Kurt who comment on this clear disparity a) hate Blaine or b) have a need for Kurt to be some perfect/amazing/heavenly character.  And I won’t say that there aren’t people who are Kurt fans that operate under such terms, but for a lot of Kurt fans that’s simply not true.  

That’s where I think a lot of this ‘Kurt deserves to be chased’ argument comes from.  Because while I have some problems with that statement (especially re: how Karofsky enters into this whole scenario), I can understand the notion behind it - even more now than I could last season.  Because Kurt has, with the exception of NYADA, not had a moment of unfettered personal success.  I think for a lot of people this has conflated with the fact that he is also a character that gets portrayed as either creepy or a joke when he attempts to step into this role as a desirable character.  Which not only uncategorically sucks for the fans of his that have been rooting for him since he stepped onto that football field and brought the football team to victory by just being himself, but also speaks of the really rather troubling sissyphobic and misogynistic bullcrap this show keeps on lobbing at us.  

It doesn’t help that the writers have seemed to heed these fan emotions by writing Kurt as a goddamn matyr, as if that’s a good thing, instead of a product of internalized homophobia on Kurt’s part.